The NY Times has as shrill headline on the front page today about the high levels of CO2 in the atmosphere: “Heat Trapping Gas Passes Milestone, Raising Fears.” The Global Warming / Climate Change issue has been one of the more divisive topics over the past 2 decades. I find it almost to the point of hilarity that the NY Times places headlines like this on its front page in a serious manner despite:
, the patron saint of the Global Warming movement, flies around the world in a private jet, has large homes that spew out inordinate amounts of CO2, and owns a zinc mine. To add insult to injury, he has a massive stake in Occidental Petroleum. The Onion couldn’t do a better job at creating a farcical situation and putting it out there for all to see
. Here is his latest quote, pertaining to you
of course, but not to him
: “So please, take this day and the milestone it represents to reflect on the fragility of our civilization and and the planetary ecosystem on which it depends. Rededicate yourself to the task of saving our future. Talk to your neighbors, call your legislator, let your voice be heard. We must take immediate action to solve this crisis. Not tomorrow, not next week, not next year. Now
.” I think the Emperor has no clothes – the ability of the Public to be swindled by this hypocritical huckster (as well as others
) obviously knows no bounds. We teach our young people to lead by example, but we are strangely willing to ignore that from figures of authority
The Science is Settled
. Think about this. What chapter of science is ever settled? A gigantic topic, and one worth study, is modern man’s effect on our planet. There are many ways to measure such a thing, and many years through which to sift records. How can such a massive topic be ‘settled’? This statement was the one that got me to stop simply believing the Mainstream Media Party Line. I had a wonderful science teacher at JHS 167 named Ms. Goldstein who drilled into us that there are always fields of study to explore, and further paths to go down in science. Any time I hear that there is nothing more to discuss, I begin to question the motivation behind such rhetoric. Another bit of rhetoric is the “climate change denier” ad hominem attack. Tying the phraseology of those who deny the Jewish Holocaust of the WWII era to those who question other opinions is a cloddish way to stifle debate, as well as being logically fallacious.
Only Non Science People Deny Climate Change
. Really? I had this exchange on the Sociological Petri Dish otherwise known as Facebook with someone who was incredulous simply because my opinion is different. Here is the original image with the comments:
“Stop the ignorance! Climate Change IS occurring! There should not be a debate about climate change when experts clearly say its occurring.”
ME: “Climate Change” is a total hoax. The climate is always changing. CO2 had never driven climate, how can it suddenly be a factor now? Even the BBC (hardly a ‘right wing’ venue) had a documentary on it called “The Great Global Warming Swindle”. C’mon, what’s happened to you? Oh yes, and the fix is to PAY A TAX to the United Nations. How convenient. lol pay up dude.
KM: CO2 and temp have always been direct proportional, today CO2 is at its highest levels ever in history, of course it drives climate its a greenhouse gas. Im pretty sure that BBC document were full of NON-SCIENCE degree people, its not about the politics when it comes to something that is not a hoax and research clearly shows that climate change is real.
: Your assumptions are embarrassing, and your ability to be swayed by others is baffling. The “non science” people in the documentary were from MIT
, the University of Ottawa, and the co-founder of Greenpeace. BTW, the climate is always ‘changing’. It is your responsibility to check both sides of an issue. Yes, I typed MIT. Perhaps you should check things out. I wouldn’t recommend something that I didn’t was worth your time. If it were ‘political’ and not science based I wouldn’t waste your time.
KM: wow so basically your saying that i am waisting my time here in college researching and studying climate change? i don’t understand why your not believing the actual scientists who actually study this for a living. your saying that all of the extreme weather events that have recently occurred are normal? superstore sandy was just a coincidence? the year 2012 being the warmest year on record? the blizzard in the midwest that occurred just last week? more extreme drought around the world? more wildfires?
ME: Which one is it? Climate change or Global Warming? And I said none of those things. Those are all straw man arguments. You build up a fake construct in order to tear it down. I never told yo what to study. I said Global Warming was a hoax, and CO2, which is less than 1% of our atmosphere, has never been a driver of climate. Where did I get that from? From the MIT scientist who said it in the piece of proof I provided. If you can obliterate the SCIENTISTS who made those statements, check what I provided and prove them and me wrong. I’m an analytical well read person. I don’t come at you with my emotions on a scientific issue, and I don’t speak on issues where I haven’t done my own research. You knock down the MIT people, and we’ll talk – until then I recommend you look at all sides of the issues you study. You have too high quality a mind to waste it on partisan foolishness.
This is my favorite part of the exchange, and it shows the utter inability of our young people to see the forest from the trees: “Im pretty sure that BBC document were full of NON-SCIENCE degree people, its not about the politics when it comes to something that is not a hoax and research clearly shows that climate change is real.” – This was written without irony, as the image has the Obama campaign “O” at the bottom. In addition, the unwatched BBC documentary contains ONLY scientists, from the US, Canada, the UK and Japan. The willingness to assume these things, sight unseen, is what passes for ‘analysis’ today. KM is a college student studying weather and atmosphere and climate.
Watts Up With That?
– a repository of science based questions about the Global Warming / Climate Change (which one again?) debate.
Dr Richard Lindzen
, MIT. “we’re talking of a few tenths of a degree change in temperature. None of it in the last eight years, by the way. And if we had warming, it should be accomplished by less storminess. But because the temperature itself is so unspectacular, we have developed all sorts of fear of prospect scenarios — of flooding, of plague, of increased storminess when the physics says we should see less.”
The work of James Delingpole
is worth a look. His experiences show that diversity of opinion is not part of the Power Elite’s Mainstream Debate.
– hacked emails show the lengths the people at one of the major universities were willing to go in order to fake results to keep the narrative alive. The establishment’s reaction to Climategate is worth it. “Nothing to see here” says TPTB.
Here is the BBC documentary – judge for yourself.